attempting to keep my bankroll

[awdtalon21]

Ok im going to be playing .10/NL, i will post weekly updates every Saturday. Im staring with 60$ on fulltilt.

My main goal, not to lose all my bankroll by moving up the stakes to high, without the proper bankroll.

Week 1 +23$

[MrPadawan]

Just a suggestion but shouldnt you start at maybe 5NL or even lower considering you only have 6 buy ins for 10NL.... Its usually recommended you have 20 BI for the limit you want to play.

[awdtalon21]

im only buying in for 4$. Its 15 buy ins not 20 but close enough.

[MrPadawan]

I see... Do you always short stack games? Do you feel uncomfortable playing with 100bb at 5NL? If short stacking is your strategy then I can see it as an ok thing to do, but I do think that its more +EV to play with 100bb if you have an edge over your opponents.

Good luck and keep the blog updated

[awdtalon21]

Ya i have been playing at 5nl and 10nl, still doing well, i will post updates soon.

[awdtalon21]

Wow bad beat after bad beat, had to stop for the night, my god...

[MrPadawan]

start posting the hands Awd... you will never get better without posting hands and receiving feedback

[badgers]

20 buyins is not enough of a bankroll when you're short stacking. The swings are larger than if you were playing .02/.04, as you would expect. I would suggest if you're serious about keeping your bankroll that you move down, otherwise even if you're a decently winning player you run the risk of variance taking you out!

Good luck nonetheless, and post some hands as MrPadawan says

[awdtalon21]

Well here is the two bad ones, not sure if this is the right was to post the hands.

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Full Tilt)
$5.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, July 28, 11:24:42 ET 2010
Table Cordell (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $4.11 USD ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 15, 3B: 0, AF: 5.0, Hands: 20
Seat 2: Player2 ( $15.97 USD ) - VPIP: 13, PFR: 9, 3B: 2, AF: 3.7, Hands: 172
Seat 3: Player3 ( $5.13 USD ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 10, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 20
Seat 4: Player4 ( $1.65 USD ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: NaN, Hands: 16
Seat 5: Hero ( $3.38 USD ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 9, 3B: 1, AF: 1.4, Hands: 2305
Seat 6: Player6 ( $4.89 USD ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: Infinity, Hands: 20
Seat 7: Player7 ( $5.77 USD ) - VPIP: 8, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 13
Seat 8: Player8 ( $8.80 USD ) - VPIP: 10, PFR: 10, 3B: 0, AF: Infinity, Hands: 20
Seat 9: Player9 ( $3.75 USD ) - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: NaN, Hands: 20
Player9 posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
Player1 posts big blind [$0.05 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Qc Qh ]
Player2 folds
Player3 raises [$0.15 USD]
Player4 folds
Hero calls [$0.15 USD]
Player6 folds
Player7 folds
Player8 folds
Player9 folds
Player1 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, Tc, 5d ]
Player3 checks
Hero checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ Th ]
Player3 checks
Hero checks
** Dealing River ** [ 7c ]
Player3 bets [$0.25 USD]
Hero raises [$1.00 USD]
Player3 raises [$1.75 USD]
Hero raises [$2.23 USD]
Player3 calls [$1.23 USD]
Hero shows [Qc, Qh ]
Player3 shows [Ts, Td ]
Player3 wins $6.38 USD from main pot




***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Full Tilt)
$10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, July 28, 11:01:16 ET 2010
Table Nap (shallow) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $2.54 USD )
Seat 2: Player2 ( $0.74 USD )
Seat 3: Player3 ( $2.30 USD )
Seat 4: Player4 ( $8.30 USD )
Seat 5: Hero ( $3.47 USD )
Seat 6: Player6 ( $1.68 USD )
Seat 7: Player7 ( $5.25 USD )
Seat 8: Player8 ( $3.60 USD )
Seat 9: Player9 ( $2.42 USD )
Player6 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
Player7 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Kd Kc ]
Player9 folds
Player1 calls [$0.10 USD]
Player2 folds
Player3 folds
Player4 folds
Hero raises [$0.30 USD]
Player6 folds
Player7 raises [$0.90 USD]
Player1 calls [$0.90 USD]
Hero raises [$3.17 USD]
Player7 calls [$2.47 USD]
Player1 calls [$1.54 USD]
Hero shows [Kd, Kc ]
Player7 shows [Jc, Js ]
Player1 shows [8c, 8s ]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2d, Jh, Tc ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ah ]
Player7 wins $1.74 USD from main pot
Player7 wins $7.16 USD from main pot

[awdtalon21]

I have lost 20$ from last night till now, but im still up 10$ from what i put on, but im having a hard time, i want to recover my lost money back. But i cant play again to later tonight, so maybe i will be ok. I guess im going to have to drop down to 5nl now.

[badgers]

Man the first hand you miss out on so much value! Bet!! Bet turn!! Yeah might might fold sometimes but that's life, he can't always have a hand that will call 3 streets, but it's wayyy better to bet 3 streets to maximise value the time he does have a hand instaed of trying to get 1 street of value every time.

Hand 2 is a beat but I would raise to .40 or .50 pre

[MrPadawan]

hand 1 - 3bet pre, bet that flop, he would raise you with his set and you'd get the money in as a 95% favorite... oh well you got sucked out on but at least you get maximum value the times he doesnt...

As played WTF stop looking at your hand and thinking I have a monster... that flop hits enough of his raising range these players are bad... If he is calling you he is calling period... just bet for value and you get called by so many hands AT, KQ, QJ, JJ, AK, KJ, and I might be missing some... but the main reason is HE IS NOT AGGRESSIVE!!!, ARE WE REALLY CHECKING HOPING SOMEONE WITH A 1 AF IS GOING TO BLUFF!!!!

ok moving on
Hand 2 - raise to .40-.50 pre like badger suggested... and besides that totally standard.. All we can do is get our money in ahead... the rest is up to the cards... and just so you should only win that hand 2/3 times.. seems crappy but your equity is 66%, I dont think people realize just how much losing 1/3 of the time sucks...

This is why myself and EVERY instructor on this site is adamant about BR management... I play with a 50-100 BI rule but I play PLO... most NLH players should play with 20-30 BI IMO...

Good luck, and Im sure there are some hands that you have leaked money on or been stumped that might help us improve your game as opposed to coolers

[awdtalon21]

Thanks guys, i have moved down to 5nl. I never really new how important the right bankroll was. I know they where just suck outs, but it has happening all night just have to vent it out a little. I will 3-bet and raise more.

[awdtalon21]

Week 1 +23$

[MrPadawan]

good job... just keep using BR management. Its called a grind for a reason

[awdtalon21]

Well right now my bankroll is 155$. If it was not for rackback i would be down, Holdem manager says im down 8$ in cash games. Im not sure what to do, im guessing im a break even player if not worse. Is there any info from holdem manager you guys can look at to help me any?

Thanks